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Poster: craven714 Date: Sep 19, 2013 8:36am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: The cassette tape turns 50

this week~
Break out those Walkmans! (34 years old this year)

Just a little pole: (6th grade remarks now)
What was your first Grateful Dead cassette? Do you remember?
Mine was 9-20-1970. Lucky, right? I will never forget that
day. Now it just all rolls into one...
Any others with those brain cells left?

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Poster: SaintSteveg Date: Sep 20, 2013 8:01am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The cassette tape turns 50

I don't recall the specific show, but my first bootleg cassettes, which I received in 1973 or so, were part of a run from Fillmore East, the one where Tom Constanten joined them for Dark Star. They also sang "Searching," which I found out years later they performed with the Beach Boys. I still have those tapes, and they still play, but mercy they sound like crap.

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Poster: Monte B Cowboy Date: Sep 20, 2013 8:30am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The cassette tape turns 50

You're talking about the infamous Broom Closet tapes! I have my copies too, and they still sound pretty good. I posted a web page for this story. Jimmy Watson let me dub from his copies of them in 1972. These tapes were circulating all over NJ at the time, thanks to Buddy Miller. I love that broom-closet musty smell I get from these tapes. It's an incredible story!

The Broom Closet tapes story by Bill Gadsden
http://archive.org/post/373922/tdih-1971

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Poster: Jack o' Roses Date: Sep 19, 2013 10:49am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The cassette tape turns 50

one cassette from 1975 great american music hall;
off the radio (not the boot makebelieve ballroom).

I got it in 1980...

my 1st run of shows on tape was the 12/82 run; i got these in early 1983; getting multiple shows at once was a life changer.

when did others get multiple-show runs in one package/at one time? what shows were they?

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Poster: craven714 Date: Sep 19, 2013 12:35pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The cassette tape turns 50

didn't get runs until the digital ages. you lucky SOB.
From a faceless machine, not a human. Speaking of which~
Looks like most firsts are from that early 80s period so far, when technology reared its (dead) head for the tapers.

Thanks for specifying the first timeline too.
The 1970 I still have... I got in 1988. Yeah. That guy.
edit~ oh btw~ Dark Star tdih: http://archive.org/details/gd70-09-19.sbd.kaplan.5217.sbeok.shnf

Im lovin these responses and pix

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Poster: Jack o' Roses Date: Sep 20, 2013 6:35am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The cassette tape turns 50

what a great thread!

& thanks to tapers Jim S. & Dale S. (different 's'). That I met at the Jerry comeback shows 12.14...86. Jim was kind enough to send copies of every show thereafter (&, DAT copies of his old masters)..., & to George W. for his selfless dead-ication to sharing his live music since 1995.

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Poster: craven714 Date: Sep 20, 2013 7:15am
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All thanks to the tapers. Too many to mention...
Dammit Wise!

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Sep 19, 2013 12:35pm
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cool, my first 'cassette' was the same from '75 from a re-broadcast that i taped off the radio i think in the early '80s ... played the living hell out of it, but it was part of what started the fever

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Sep 19, 2013 11:34am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The cassette tape turns 50

4-14-85 (2nd)

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Sep 19, 2013 9:04am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The cassette tape turns 50

Your memory is far superior to mine. Can't remember the first tape, but like elbow, I do remember Augusta 84 as being a "holy crap, I have to get a copy of this" tape. One tape-specific memory I do have is when some butt-wipe mouth-breathing inbred slime broke into my 79 Cutlass Cruiser station wagon (don't laugh, cops never looked twice at it) and removed my entire collection while I was at a Brendan Byrne show. THAT was not a great way to end a show experience.

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Poster: Finster Baby Date: Sep 19, 2013 10:27am
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If it was the Oct 84 Byrne shows, it was an epidemic because I had a bunch of tapes stolen from the car at those shows also.

As for the first tape...don't remember the first on cassette. First boot was a vinyl copy of Farewell To Winterland. Played the hell out of it. Once I started getting some cassettes 10/12/84 was a show that was heavy in the rotation early on for me as well!!

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Poster: craven714 Date: Sep 19, 2013 9:24am
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total bummer SDH. I unfortunately remember that story.
That would explain your pent up anger
issues and destruction fetishes I assume. Im not sure where
you store you denial...

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Sep 19, 2013 8:46am
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10-09-84 shortly followed by 10-12-84 and 7-31-82.

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Poster: lobster12 Date: Sep 19, 2013 10:58am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The cassette tape turns 50

Barton hall and a merriweather post from 85

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Poster: fireeagle Date: Sep 19, 2013 3:54pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The cassette tape turns 50

1978-09-16
//Ollin Arrageed > Fire On The Mountain...
got it a week or 2 after the event took place
played it for years, till it self destroyed
think it was a sbd

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Poster: reviewr Date: Sep 21, 2013 8:48pm
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My first cassette was mislabeled 10/31/70. I still don't know the correct date, but it's definitely 1970 (real good Dancin', hot Not Fade>GDTR, Pigpen).
My fist bootleg was 8/28/81 on vinyl - only second set. I didn't know at the time that it was poor etiquette to buy bootlegs.
This is about 1983 - just getting on the bus.
Both shows have a special place in my heart, although I now know there is a lot that are better.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Sep 22, 2013 6:04am
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10-4-70.

Check and see...wah-wah Sug Mag?

Also, the UJB they put on the expanded disk WorkMan's is from the same day...my first bootleg album.

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Poster: Diamondhead Date: Sep 19, 2013 10:19am
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Dick Latvala made my first tapes after I met him in late 1976 on the Big Island. When I got home to LA I would send him a box of Maxell blanks and he would send me back magic. And Puna Butter (that's what it was called). Tapes were of concerts I had been to in the previous years plus his suggestions, one of which was 8/6/71. It's weird - I played those tapes for so long that when I look at my Dick's Picks cds, I still recognize his writing. He was a great guy - rip.

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Poster: gaffsailor Date: Sep 19, 2013 3:13pm
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The last track of 7/18/76 at the Orpheum Theatre has Bill Minkin doing a pick for Scotch Brand Magnetic Tapes. Its a great bit of nostalgia. I recorded the show on Maxell tapes. My father came in asking if the music had to be so loud.

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Poster: gaffsailor Date: Sep 19, 2013 3:13pm
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The last track of 7/18/76 at the Orpheum Theatre has Bill Minkin doing a pick for Scotch Brand Magnetic Tapes. Its a great bit of nostalgia. I recorded the show on Maxell tapes. My father came in asking if the music had to be so loud.

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Poster: craven714 Date: Sep 19, 2013 11:57am
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holy crap!
If this was a race, I think you would be leading
even just by default.

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Poster: Diamondhead Date: Sep 19, 2013 12:11pm
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Just accidental circumstances. I was bike touring the islands and met him in a health food store. He invited me to stay at his home for a few days and was a cool host.

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Poster: gaffsailor Date: Sep 19, 2013 3:13pm
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The last track of 7/18/76 at the Orpheum Theatre has Bill Minkin doing a pick for Scotch Brand Magnetic Tapes. Its a great bit of nostalgia. I recorded the show on Maxell tapes. My father came in asking if the music had to be so loud.

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Poster: ColdRain108 Date: Sep 19, 2013 3:33pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The cassette tape turns 50

My first show was in 1980, in 1981 I was lucky and fell in with a bunch of old people(35) I was 19...they had been Deadheads since the dawn of civilization(1965). Jack's house was nothing more than a cassette tape storage facility. Walls and walls of tapes. Anytime we went over there you would bring a box of blanks and a bag of weed, he had half a dozen decks running all the time and we would spend the next several hours making copies. Everything from famous '68 Carousel Ballroom to the show they just played. It was deadhead hog heaven!

At his recommendation, the second set from 1/22/78 was my first tape and I loved it to death. Now I have a digital version and it is still one of my go to recordings. We would have copies of the shows we just saw within days...if not listening to it right after the show.

I carried a D5 that belonged to another old guy, Carl, on the '83 mountain west tour, I would always get a patch in somewhere. Had to mail it back with all the masters when I flew to NYC from Red Rocks. I guess he trusted me to take good care of his deck, considering I hitch hiked part of the tour...and was a known psychedelic freak.

The old folks liked us because we were in love with the band as much as they were and we could handle our psychedelics. We were respectful and had a huge appetite for stories from the good old days - and they had lots of Pigpen tales to tell. Plus they liked the fact that we had the energy to stay up for three nights before a show holding space in line, and we were happy to let them in - I mean we were going to sit there all week anyway. So the old folks got a few more rail shows due to our OCD Dead compulsions. Synergy. It was just so much fun, a whole world within itself. You could easily just forget the outside world even existed.

When I moved to the east coast and ran into a bunch of younger heads I did my best to pass on the small collection I had.

I've got a big box somewhere with a lot of the old tapes. I guess I should check it out and see if there is anything not found on the archive.

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Poster: craven714 Date: Sep 20, 2013 7:52am
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excellent story man.
I had to mostly rely on the Grateful Dead hour eventually,
after I got hooked. Your experience is far better

oh edit~ notice the blank in the corner (unopened, I still have at least a dozen of em) "IDEAL FOR CDs". lmao. Isnt that like a MP3 player stating "Ideal for FLACs".
Lets go backwards in technology. What a great maketing ploy

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Poster: fenario80 Date: Sep 19, 2013 1:09pm
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7-18-76, King Biscuit chopped-up version but it was still mind-blowing ... still is.

Not long after an older head gave me vinyl pressings of Make-Believe Ballroom and Englishtown and I wore those suckers out

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Poster: Pig Street ! Date: Sep 19, 2013 11:11am
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Maxell C-90

4.28.71

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Poster: abilene22 Date: Sep 19, 2013 7:27pm
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I sometimes threw blank tapes in a self addressed mailer with plenty of postage and over a couple of beers or a smoke a friendly taper would agree to burn copies and throw 'em in the mail. I got about half of them back, which may or may not be a good average- depends upon your opinion of tapers, I suppose.

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Poster: Monte B Cowboy Date: Sep 19, 2013 11:26am
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cassette reel number one, my first time taping, June 9, 1973
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Poster: reviewr Date: Sep 21, 2013 9:07pm
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Too funny!
I have similar titles.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Sep 19, 2013 11:33am
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Love the song titles

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Poster: Diamondhead Date: Sep 19, 2013 2:51pm
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I agree with bluedevil. Your command of song titles was just like mine.

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Poster: craven714 Date: Sep 20, 2013 7:21am
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Montes "titles" are gr8. I thought Franklins Tower was
called Roll away the Dew for at least a year. Go figure...

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Sep 19, 2013 9:38am
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My first "cassette(s)" were official releases - Skeltons from the Closet and then Skull & Roses. My first boot may have been the '82 Starlight Theatre show, but it all blends because once I started getting tapes, well, there are many, many shoeboxes full of the same in the garage.

Anyone want to sell a walkman?

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Poster: patkelleyPA Date: Sep 20, 2013 7:18am
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6-25-85. If I had known then that it was their best performance ever, I might have stopped collecting right there.

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Poster: Reade Date: Sep 20, 2013 11:27am
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First bootleg was from Fox Theatra in St. Louis, Dec. '71, given to me by a friend. The FM broadcast I suspect. Pig sang 'Run Rudolf Run.' AND (drum roll here) it was an 8-track, not a cassette. What an artifact. Wish I still had it.